{"id":147825960,"date":"2024-08-21T12:30:46","date_gmt":"2024-08-21T12:30:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.lazyandentitled.org\/?p=147825960"},"modified":"2024-08-21T12:30:46","modified_gmt":"2024-08-21T12:30:46","slug":"should-you-play-bass-with-a-pick","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lazyandentitled.org\/?p=147825960","title":{"rendered":"Should You Play Bass With A Pick?"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">&#8220;I need oxygen to the stage, please&#8230;&#8221; &#8211; Mark Hoppus, &#8216;The Mark Tom and Travis Show&#8217;<\/h2><p>As I\u2019ve gotten older, certain things that used to seem world-defineing have firmly been moved to the \u201cno big deal\u201d folder in the ol\u2019 brain hard drive. Here\u2019s one of the more horrifying things from my 30s: younger people not only exist and are younger than me, but sometimes they get embroiled in the same stupid debates my friends and I would get embroiled in. <\/p><p>When I first started pitching <em>Cracked<\/em>, the internet was new enough that there was a \u201cno recycling information from earlier articles\u201d rule. Sure, one article might be \u201cThe 6 Most Baffling Decisions In Superhero Movies\u201d and another article might be \u201cThe 6 Most Mind-Blowing Decisions In Superhero Movies,\u201d but those would be entirely different articles. By the time I was there full-time, everyone was recycling stuff from earlier <em>Cracked<\/em> articles. I was tasked with taking a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cracked.com\/article_30666_7-times-sports-fans-were-the-absolute-worst.html\">7-item column<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cracked.com\/article_35284_the-15-worst-sports-fandoms-power-ranked-for-terribleness.html\">blowing it out into a 15-item listicle<\/a>. Then I <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cracked.com\/article_33019_5-thought-provoking-moments-hiding-in-frachises-dumbest-movies.html\">did it<\/a> again, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cracked.com\/article_35462_15-smart-moments-in-dumb-comedies.html\">two<\/a> for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cracked.com\/article_35219_15-smart-moments-in-dumb-action-movies.html\">one<\/a> this time. <\/p><p>Think what you want about that practice. I came around to at least understanding it. In pitch meetings, this was referred to as \u201cre-introducing things to a new generation of readers.\u201d Sure, I\u2019m optimistic enough to buy that. Besides, repeating things isn\u2019t the worst. Information changes, the world changes, you approach things with fresh eyes. <\/p><p>All of this is to say: how are we not done with the bassists using picks debate?<\/p><p>My instagram and YouTube algos, at least, won\u2019t let this die. Personally, whether or not to use a pick has been decided for a long time. But who cares what I think? Let\u2019s look at some bassists. <\/p><p><strong>The Case For Using A Pick: Mark Hoppus<\/strong><\/p><p>You might think a better punk bass player to bring up would be <a href=\"https:\/\/shipwreckedsailor.substack.com\/p\/lets-meditate-on-art-with-matt-freeman?utm_source=publication-search\">Matt Freeman, and you\u2019d be right<\/a>. I want to highlight Hoppus, though\u2014widely regarded as and self-admittedly a pretty bad bass player\u2014for his understanding of texture. I read an interview with him when I was in, like, middle school where he talked about thinking of himself as a rhythm guitarist sometimes. Blink 182 is a band that\u2019s very much the sum of their parts. Travis is always doing something wild on the drums (they\u2019d be nothing without him). Tom more or less controls dynamics with his guitar. But Mark  holds things in place\u2014root notes most of the time, chords to boost heavy parts or add urgency to soft parts, the odd fill here and there. <\/p><figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Blink-182 - Carousel - 6\/18\/1999 - Shoreline Amphitheatre\" width=\"790\" height=\"593\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/_GEcKrg08kc?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure><p>Even if you\u2019re not playing a ton of notes, your bass contributes more than people hear at first blush. <\/p><p><strong>The Case For Not Using A Pick: Flea<\/strong><\/p><p>Now, you wanna talk about understanding texture? About knowing when to play chords? About being the bassist in a three-piece (I pretend Anthony Kiedis isn\u2019t there most times I listen to the Chili Peppers)? Then you gotta talk about Flea. This famous Los Angeles Lakers fan is probably the most mainstream slap-and-popper, with apologies to Victor Wooten and Jaco Pastorius (big in the bass community, unknown to normies) and the Seinfeld theme song (played on a keyboard). The Chili Peppers don\u2019t have the range they do without Flea. He\u2019s melodic, he\u2019s aggressive, he\u2019s restrained, he\u2019s energetic. Who else could play \u201cSuck My Kiss\u201d <em>and<\/em> the sample for Crazy Town\u2019s \u201cButterfly,\u201d RIP Shifty Shellshock? My personal favorite Flea bass lines are \u201cThis Velvet Glove,\u201d \u201cBlood Sugar Sex Magik,\u201d and far and away the best: \u201cUnder The Bridge.\u201d<\/p><figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Red Hot Chili Peppers - Under The Bridge [Official Music Video]\" width=\"790\" height=\"593\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/GLvohMXgcBo?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure><p>The answer is lots of people could play both those songs, but no one else can play both those songs and afford courtside Lakers tix. <\/p><p><strong>The Case For Using A Pick: Clay Gober<\/strong><\/p><p>Well here\u2019s another guy who can get some slap-and-pop tones. But while using a pick! The world is vast. Clay is the first bassist I\u2019ve seen use hybrid picking\u2014where you play with a pick but also use your fingers to pluck higher strings\u2014which is pretty cool. The most impressive thing about Clay, though, is I\u2019m pretty sure Polyphia\u2019s song construction starts with guitarists Tim and Scottie writing to an autodrummer, then the two Clays have to figure out how to make it a coherent rhythm section. Impossible ask. The way that Clay holds down the groove\/chords while also filling gaps and augmenting melody\u2014that\u2019s good stuff. He\u2019s an incredibly ostentatious and showy person who is restrained and tasteful as a bass player. My favorite Polyphia bass song is \u201cIcronic,\u201d which does all the things I just mentioned. The studio version has a fill he doesn\u2019t quite do live, but let\u2019s listen to the live version because it\u2019s easier to hear component parts:<\/p><figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Polyphia Live at The Factory in Deep Ellum\" width=\"790\" height=\"444\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/7ynHVGCehoM?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure><p>Speaking of taste and restraint, I\u2019m genuinely impressed with Polyphia for dressing that way for their live album filming. If you\u2019ve seen the \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=J7aAKMzi4zw\">Look But Don\u2019t Touch<\/a>\u201d video, you know what I mean. <\/p><p><strong>The Case For Not Using A Pick: Thundercat<\/strong><\/p><p>Finally, we get to the most tasteful bassist alive. Maybe the best bassist alive, although such title belts are kinda silly. Still, the man\u2019s everywhere, from Kendrick records to DOMi &amp; JD BECK records to Suicidal Tendencies records to the <em>Yo Gabba Gabba<\/em> reboot. Thundercat\u2019s bass playing is varied, the way you have to be when you\u2019re a solo artist, sought-after session player, and all-around weirdo. His biggest single is a song made of three-note chords. He holds a groove well enough that he can get <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Z-zdIGxOJ4M\">Michael McDonald and Kenny Loggins featured <\/a><em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Z-zdIGxOJ4M\">on the same song<\/a><\/em>. Let\u2019s watch his whole Tiny Desk and take copious notes:<\/p><figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Thundercat: NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert\" width=\"790\" height=\"444\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/zhVgbZdMdb0?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure><p>Thundercat is incredible. As he would say, it\u2019s cool to be a cat. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0vQKh52dcOs\">Meow meow meow<\/a>.<\/p><p><strong>What Does A Deity Have To Say About It? <\/strong><\/p><figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Top 5 Carol Kaye Bass Lines |\u00a0Beach Boys, Simon &amp; Garfunkel, Joe Cocker |\u00a0Thomann\" width=\"790\" height=\"444\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/tkEARv_t08w?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure><p>Carol Kaye used a pick. That settles it. Use a pick if you want. Watch this video! Julia\u2019s easily one of the best people on YouTube. She\u2019s so joyous! So stoked about bass! And yeah, do what Carol Kaye does, when it comes to playing bass. <\/p><p><strong>What Do I Have To Say About It? <\/strong><\/p><figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"eroding coasts\" width=\"790\" height=\"444\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Pfva69dpzWs?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure><p>Use one or don\u2019t. Who cares? I do both. Depends on the song. <\/p><p>Just don\u2019t be <em>that<\/em> guy. <em>That<\/em> bass player. <em>That <\/em>keyboardist. <em>That <\/em>guitarist. <em>That<\/em> sound guy. <em>That <\/em>dad. <em>That<\/em> music writer. <\/p><p>Be cool. 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